Last Updated: July 11, 2018 Quicken Inc has dropped a big hint that both Quicken for Windows and Mac may soon be subscription payment only in the US meaning no more one-off payments for the product. The Canadian version of Quicken 2017 has just been released and is using a subscription payment only model.
If users choose not to renew their annual subscription to Quicken on Windows or Mac, they will no longer be able to manually update their accounts, although they will still be able to access them, edit them and run reports. If true, it is likely to push increasingly push Mac users towards better and cheaper such as the free.
When it was originally released a few days ago, the FAQ for Quicken 2017 in Canada stated that all future Quicken releases will be subscription products. The big change was slipped into the regarding connected services: I don’t like online banking, do I still need to buy connected services? The new Quicken Canada is designed so that you never go through the upgrade process again.
Oct 14, 2016 - I did buy Quicken for Mac 2016 rather late just before the new. I would totally upgrade, for an upgrade price, not retail.pure and total BS! Quicken 2019 for Mac imports data from Quicken for Windows 2010 or newer, Quicken for Mac 2015 or newer, Quicken for Mac 2007, Quicken Essentials for Mac, and Banktivity. 2 The Quicken Data Access Guarantee means that whether you renew your subscription or not, you’ll always have full access to and ownership of your data.
In addition to online banking, you’ll automatically receive new Quicken features, versions, and services as part of your Quicken subscription, so you’ll always have the newest product. To provide you with these new features, a subscription to connected services is a required part of your product purchase. All future Quicken products will be subscription products. However, as protest and concern mounted online that this meant that the subscription model would soon be used in the USA, Quicken has now revised the FAQ to state: “All future Canadian Quicken products will be subscription products”. The company is currently declining to comment however whether this means it will also be rolled out in the USA.
The FAQ goes on to explain that if a user decides to cancel their subscription, they will no longer be able to update their accounts manually although they will still be able to still access, edit, delete, copy and export data and run or save reports. What happens to the program when access to Quicken Connected Services ends? You’ll no longer have access to connected services, like the ability to download banking transactions or investment quotes, mobile access, or premium care. While you can continue to access your data and run reports, you’ll no longer be able to download transactions, or add manual transactions. This will essentially render Quicken unable to manage your ongoing finances on your PC or Mac until you renew your subscription apart from being able to view existing data and run reports on it. The Canadian version of Quicken 2017 is currently available in – Quicken Cash Manager which costs $39.99 per year and Quicken Home & Business which costs $89.99 per year.
In place of the normal “Purchase” button is a “Subscribe Now” button: A has already started online on the Quicken Community Forum under a post entitled “Quicken Inc should reverse its decision to change to a subscription that makes the user’s data read-only if they stop paying”. Users can vote against the move at the top of the page and at the time of writing, 59 users have voted against the subscription model and voiced their opinion on the forum. While there are clearly many users against the move with some accusing the company of keeping their data “hostage”, there are also many users that say they are not actually against the subscription model as long as it is optional or offers a better deal than the current one-time pricing deal. Quicken User: Whilst I am not against the subscription model in principle, and for a mature product such as Quicken it makes a lot of sense, it has to be priced such that people feel it is as good a deal or better than the previous purchase model.
Also, if the subscription isn’t renewed, manual access and updates to the data need to be allowed, otherwise the company will be perceived to be holding the customer’s data hostage. Meanwhile another user appeals to Quicken to follow the Microsoft Office pricing plan: I think it is a really bad idea to change to subscription only as a business model.
Perhaps the subscription could be an option much like Microsoft does with its Office product. They offer both a subscription service and purchase option.
The subscription is annual with a lower cost but the higher priced purchase option still exists. It is up to the customer to decide which is best for them. I have been a Quicken user for many years and I know that I would prefer being able to choose. To Quicken Inc’s credit, since Intuit was taken over by H.I.G. Capital last year, it has been much better at dealing with customer concerns with Quicken, especially with the release of Quicken for Mac 2017 which addressed issues that have riled Mac users for years. A Quicken representative has already acknowledged protests about the move on the Quicken Community forum and stated that “our development and management teams will be reviewing all of the feedback here”.
It’s therefore possible that Quicken will change or modify its policy on this before rolling it out in the USA. Although as we wrote in our, the latest version was a definite improvement on previous versions of Quicken, many Mac users have already abandoned Quicken over the years in favor of. If Quicken Inc chooses to make subscriptions compulsory for Quicken for Mac users in the US too, this will likely alienate Mac users even more – and a considerable amount of PC users too. If you’re a Quicken for Mac or even a Quicken for Windows user, let us know your thoughts on this latest move by Quicken in the comments below.
Eric Jacobs Sorry, but your correction needs a correction. You revised the article to say that Intuit was taken over by H.I. Capital last year. This is completely wrong. Intuit was, and still is, an independent, publicly-traded company.
Quicken WAS a division of Intuit. In 2015, Intuit announced it would sell off Quicken to a buyer who would focus more on the Quicken products, which were not part of Intuit’s core vision moving forward. In March 2016, Intuit sold Quicken to H.I.G. The products (as well as nearly all the staff of the Quicken division), became Quicken, Inc. AZSnowbird While I am not against a subscription model having bought Quicken’s new version every year in Canada and in the US for the past six years, I am totally against being held ransom to manipulate my own data after a subscription should end and not be renewed.
My data is MINE and not for Quicken to shut me out of making any manual entries at a later point. Although I will be writing to Mr. Dunn to advise him that we’re considering “dumping” Quicken for something else, I will be researching all alternatives and plead that all customers write to Mr. Dunn to express their concerns. Pretty sad to dump on customers like we have been since the earliest DOS versions and that’s going back many years. El viejo I admit to being cynical about this change.
I have no intention of giving the new owners the benefit of the doubt. And, my cynicism leads me to think there is a rat in their business model. My guess is that they will offer a low to modestly low opening subscription price. But, subscribers shouldn’t be surprised when they are hit with annual price increases. By holding the subscriber’s data hostage, the probability of individual users renewing after each price increase goes up many-fold. In this scenario, hostage holding turns into a form resembling petty extortion. Lloyd Morris Annual sub is okay if, if the price is right.
I would happily pay $20/year or may be even $25 but more than that, no way. I appreciate the efforts made to improve the product (tho it still has a ways to go) and to listen to feedback. I was just about to upgrade my years old Mac app (list $79.95?) but, now I will wait to hear what it will really cost.
Upgrading very 3 or 4 years, if it really is an upgrade, is okay but, the annual fee should not be more than an upgrade price of say,$50 or $60. Earl Sifford Bye bye Quicken, be that managed by Intuit, H.I.G, or XYZ. I’ve not been happy with their sunset clause for years, why do I need to update software that is meeting my needs just fine. Now they add onto the pile and say that I have to subscribe to an automatic update! Might as well give them complete access to everything on my computer including my private financial data. I’m 95% complete in transitioning to Banktivity (recommended as a Quicken alternative by How2) and will shortly be able to completely stop using Quicken.
Now if I can find an alternative to Quickbooks my goal will be complete. Smayer97 Price is only one of the issues, and if you follow the discussion on the protest discussion thread, it is secondary, although important. You can actually find a prioritized summary of all the issues surrounding this here: The greater and more paramount issue is that Quicken has introduced a model that would prevent a user from being able to manually add transactions to their data file if their subscription lapses, on top of other mechanisms that currently can interfere via the Intuit ID. If you see it as an issue that Quicken should get in the way of you being able to manually maintain your personal financial data that resides on your computer if you so choose, be sure to add your vote of protest to the hundreds of others that see this as a major problem. Eric Jacobs As long as you don’t buy Quicken Starter Edition, the new “subscription model” is the.exact.
same as the old Quicken model, except the time frames and prices have changed. The old Quicken annual versions had a three-year expiration for online services (downloading transactions, stock prices, and more). You could continue to use them after the online services expired if you were okay with entering your transactions manually. That hasn’t changed at all under the new subscriptions plans.
Instead of a once-a-year annual release of a new version, the software gets updates throughout the year as new features and/or bug fixes are created, tested and ready; there is not pressure to hold back important new features for marketing purposes until the next annual release. The expiration of online services is no longer a set date, but a set period of time after you buy and activate your subscription; there are 12-month, 24-month, and 27-month (through Amazon) subscription currently available. And yes, the pricing is generally higher now compared to the old releases, unless you had always purchased each year’s release. But there’s nothing inherently different or evil about the “subscription model” compared the the Quicken versions the past. So when you say “Quicken, you need to give us a choice” it’s not clear what you’re asking for. Aside from perhaps not wanting to pay the current pricing, what is the issue? Smayer97 As a result of Quicken reversing its decision to make your data read-only when any subscription expires, instead, they will now hijack about 25% of your screen real-estate for advertising.
Quicken has determined that this is the price to pay if you let your subscription expire! This is one of the things that has come to light as more and more users that chose to let the subscription expire are seeing. If you dislike this business decision, you can add your VOTE to “Quicken Inc should eliminate or at least minimize the LARGE Advertising space used when a subscription expires” here: First, click on the underlined link above to go there, then click VOTE at the top of THAT page, so your vote will count. Your VOTES matter! You may also want to contact Quicken Support to express your concerns at.